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Posted - 2011.06.28 02:33:00 -
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I use the same website.http://ore.cerlestes.de/index.html#site:ore
I have heard from many miners about this or that ore is so much better profit. but It seems many less experienced miners only look at the price of the minerals you get from a refine, or the price of ore per unit.
Your mining lasers and strip miners mine a predetermined amount of ore as in m3 per cycle not units of ore per cycle. there is a huge difference. This does not change between ores and can only be increased with skills, implants, and fleet boosters. So you NEED to base your calculations on the value of the ore per m3 not ore per unit.
For example veldspar has the lowest price per unit. But also has the lowest volume per unit. only 0.1 volume per unit. so 10 m3 gives you 100 units of Veldspar. since Veldspar is about 10 isk per unit(9.99)in Jita on buy orders at the moment that's about 100 isk per m3 or about 2,700,000 per jetcan full.
Compare this to what many consider the best high sec ore, Omber which is worth about 55 isk per unit in Jita on buy orders right now. Seems so much better looking at the isk per unit price, 5 times higher. But Omber has a much higher volume 0.6 per unit so 10 m3 only gives you about 16.7 units or 91.6 isk per m3 or 2,475,000 isk per jetcan of Omber. actually less per m3 than Veldspar. Now we look at pyroxeres. 30 isk per unit buy orders in jita. With a volume of 0.3 you get about 33.4 units per 10 m3 which only gives you 100.2 isk per m3 or about 2,700,000 per jetcan.Same as Veldspar.
Yes my math is a little off. But I only considered jetcans at 27000 per load even though they actually hold 27500. I did this because unless you have you industrial ship pilot skills to 5 you can not haul a full jet can. Most miners I have mined with stop at about 27000 so they can fit the whole can in there hauler. Also I use buy order prices as these are what you get for an instant sale. By the time you pay the market fee's you don't really get that much more placing sell orders. I present this as the fastest return for the least amount of time. With full t1 rigs and cargo expanders a mammoth will haul just over 27000 with lower skills. anyone who has played long enough to haul over 27500 m3 with a t1 industrial should not need to read this as you should already know.
Now my point in all this comes back to the basics of mining. with a hulk and good skills you can mine about 1500 m3 per cycle per strip miner. with basic 3 minute cycle thats 1500 m3 per minute. I know maxed skills and maxed boost is much higher but 1500 m3/min is a good goal for newer miners. No matter what the price of ore per unit is once you factor in the volume the price per m3 is generally about the same for all high sec ores. it fluctuates but the value of a full jetcan is between 2.5 and 3 mil no matter what high sec ore you are mining. Since veldspar is the easiest to find and in the largest quantities you can not beat it on an isk per hour basis.
You can watch the stats on the market and cherry pick the best ores for a little more profit per m3, but if you factor in the lost time spent searching compared to just strip mining everything without prejudice your isk per hour works out about the same. better to spend all your time mining then to sacrifice 10% of your time searching and watching markets for a 5% better return. Keep in mind that if you are selling in Jita unless you have absolutely maxed refining skills and faction for a perfect refine you will make more selling the raw ore than refining and selling the minerals. I have perfect refining skills but if I refine at a station I do not have really good standing at I lose isk if I refine before selling. Selling raw ore in Jita is the highest isk per hour return if you can get it there to sell. this is where a freighter can really be worth the investment.
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